Switching my High Yield Savings to SmartyPig

Switching my High Yield Savings to SmartyPig

I am currently actively saving for a house my wife and I want to build in the next few years. I have about $20,000 saved up at ING Direct and am adding to it at a rate of about $1,000 per month. I have been a happy ING Direct customer for a number of years and I think everything about their service is top notch and I have never had a problem with them. The only issue is they have been slashing their interest rates at a torrid pace the last few months (as has everyone else).

Normally the difference in interest rates between ING and their competitors is usually pretty negligible where I feel the ease of use of the ING Direct’s site outweighs the few extra bucks I would get in interest. This time however I am accumulating a pretty significant cash savings and as it currently stands SmartyPig’s interest rate is currently double that of ING Direct. So I’ve decided to make the switch for now.

Now SmartyPig and ING Direct certainly aren’t apples to apples. ING Direct is a pretty standard savings account and certainly has a lot more flexibility than SmartyPig. For those of you that don’t know SmartyPig is a goal oriented savings bank where you can’t just deposit and withdraw funds as you please (at least not if you follow the intention of their user interface).

In order to have an account at SmartyPig you have to setup a savings goal. So you enter in an amount you want to save and when you want to reach the goal by and it calculates a monthly contribution that is automatically withdrawn from your checking account once each month. Interest accrues daily, but it is only credited to your account quarterly. In order to withdraw your money you have to close your savings goal and then you can withdraw the money to your checking account via ACH, receive a Debit Card with the balance, or a gift card for the retailer of your choice. Deposits to and from SmartyPig take 3 days before they post to your account, which I believe is 1 day longer than they take at ING Direct. For those of you that are wondering, SmartyPig is FDIC insured and they partner with West Bank to store your money, so you have that peace of mind.

Now granted all of the nuances with SmartyPig may turn some people away, but here are a few ways around their interface that could allow things to work a little more like a traditional savings account. SmartyPig has a minimum goal of $250. So you just setup a goal for $250 and just make a $250 initial deposit. At this point your goal should be reached so it will not require any automatic monthly deposits. Interest keeps accruing on completed goals and you can add money at anytime to a completed goal. Then simply deposit money as you would your normal savings account. About the only drawback is when you want to withdraw money you have to withdraw the entire amount.

I’ll admit even with these workaround SmartyPig may be too rigid for a lot of users, but for my situation where I will only be depositing and likely withdrawing all at once it is not a big deal to me. I setup a trial account with them last July after receiving a SmartyPig gift card and that made me comfortable enough to make this switch. Currently the rate difference alone if all things stay equal will result in $320 extra in interest a year and like I said I am depositing about $1000 a month so the interest difference is enough for me to make the change.

Now granted SmartyPig could and very likely will lower their interest rate on their accounts as well, but they have enough of a cushion right now and seem to be cutting rates slower than the competition so I feel comfortable with the switch for now. If SmartyPig slashes rates and gets anywhere near the ING Direct range – I will simply close my savings goal and go back to ING.

What do you think? For me right now their interest rate makes this a no-brainer in my situation. Am I overlooking something major as right now this seems a little too good to be true given the interest rate environment out there right now.

Retirement Nestegg Report – February 2009

Retirement Nestegg Report – February 2009

Another brutal month as far as performance goes. Nestegg value feel by about 8% and as much as I know this is an opportunity for me, it is hard sometimes to see the progress or any forward momentum when your portfolio value is almost half of what it was a year ago.

Of course I’m not alone as I’m pretty much just keeping on track with the market and even guys like Warren Buffett have faired just as bad or even worse. The great news though is that I’m young and I don’t need this money for the next 30 years so while it’s somewhat depressing to see your saving and hard work go up in flames in the short term the odds are in my favor that long term I am still very much headed in the right direction.

Anyway here are this months results.

Traditional Rollover IRA – $7,003.59 (-4.68%)
My Roth IRA – $18,490.95 (-12.13%)
Wife Roth IRA – $9,932.34 (-12.59%)
Current Traditional 401k – $19,868.59 (-1.51%)

Roth/Traditional % = 51.40% (tax free)

Total Retirement Nest Egg $55,295.47 (-7.73%)

Retirement Nestegg Report – January 2009

Retirement Nestegg Report – January 2009

My retirement nestegg dropped in value by over 12%, which I believe is slightly worse than the market over that period of time. No big concerns at this point other than the fact that my contributions have been a little lacking lately due to the fact that I’ve gotten pretty excited about saving for a house we want to build in the next couple years and have been beefing that fund up lately to the detriment of my retirement contributions. It probably should be the other way around in this market, but both my wife and I are pretty excited to move into our “dream house” sooner than later and by getting a good house fund built up is becoming a priority.

Here are the figures for this month – if things keep going the way they are our new house fund might surpass our retirement nestegg!

Traditional Rollover IRA – $7,347.80 (-10.94%)
My Roth IRA – $21,043.66 (-11.74%)
Wife Roth IRA – $11,362.75 (-12.21%)
Current Traditional 401k – $20,173.86 (-14.30%)

Roth/Traditional % = 54.08% (tax free)

Total Retirement Nest Egg $59,928.07 (-12.61%)

The end of free trades at Zecco and my review of them

The end of free trades at Zecco and my review of them

All good things must come to an end. Last night I received the following email from Jeroen Veth the founder of Zecco

Dear Zecco Trading client,

I’m writing to tell you that as of March 1st, 2009, we’re increasing the minimum level of assets needed to earn 10 free trades per month to $25,000. We’re also adding a new way to get free trades: customers who make at least 25 total trades per month will also qualify for 10 free stock trades per month.

Now I understand some of the reasons for the need for them to switch their cost structure with interest rates being as low as they are, companies cutting advertising, less money being invested, etc, but to be honest if you don’t have a $25,000 balance with Zecco there is no reason to stay a customer with them, and even then you should seriously question whether Zecco is the best place for your money.

I’ve been a customer of theirs for about a year now and I have 3 trading accounts with them (two IRA and one taxable). There have been a number of occasions where I was going to write a pretty nasty review of their trading platform and customer service, but never got around to it and after all I figured you get what you pay for and for $0 per trade I figured I could put up with a lot of the hokey issues you deal with when you are a customer of Zecco.

Granted they have improved a number of items such as the website constantly throwing errors and puking on itself, but you still have to deal with the fact that your account balances and money available for trading are just plain wrong on a consistent basis. One day (during the days of “Which bank/financial institution is going to fail today?”) a good portion of their customers logged in to see their equity balance, cash balance, etc all sitting at $0.00. Needless to say you could not get through to their customer service over the phone because the lines were overloaded and any attempts by customers to post messages on their message boards asking what was going on were promptly deleted by Zecco staff.

Zecco has a habit of cherry picking posts it leaves on its message boards, any posts that reflect negatively on Zecco or question some of their practices are deleted by their staff. Which is the last thing you as a customer want to see when major issues like none of your investment money or cash show up in your account and you can’t get a straight answer from anyone at Zecco. I’d be surprised if this post is still there when I publish this, but here is a thread on Zecco with people complaining about Zecco deleting posts that put them in a negative light.

The issue that caused the $0 account balances is a recurring event. The cash and equity balances are not updated real-time like they are at every other brokerage I have ever used, they are done nightly via a batch job and this batch job often fails or just screws everything up. Every weekend my money available for trading is greater than it should be. It always seems to forget about any limit orders you have in the queue on the weekend and says your money available for trading is whatever cash you have and does not subtract this open limit orders. This allows you to put in orders for more money than you have cash for (which if you make regular deposits and don’t trade that often and don’t know what the balance should be is quite dangerous). Currently my Roth IRA account should have trading power of $7.04, but instead it shows $407.04 and will let me put in an additional order for that amount even though I currently have an open limit order for 10 shares of Chipotle at $40.

To make it worse this happens on my two IRA accounts and when I called Zecco to complain after I noticed a negative trading balance after the nightly batch job got the balance right the following Monday, I asked what would have happened if I would not have caught this and I would have purchased stock with money I didn’t have? Their response was it would have been treated as trading on a margin and I would have been charged interest. So apparently with Zecco if you fall victim to this bug or I guess exploit it you can trade on a margin with a retirement account! I called in on this error last July and have followed up at least 3 other times and it still has not been resolved.

There are quite a few other less serious nuisances that you put up with, but in the end I always justified it with my 10 free trades so even though I don’t trade that often it allowed me to dollar cost average into stocks and not have to worry about my money going to brokerage fees. Essentially I could put up with the annual $30 IRA fee, wrong balances, and overall just a bad website as long as I was saving money.

Now that the $0 trades are gone (granted one of my accounts is usually over $25k, but as of right now its not) Zecco has put themselves on a fairly even playing field with most of the other discount brokers such as TradeKing, Scottrade, Etrade, etc that provide professional working websites and respectable customer service and IMHO no one in their right mind should be a customer of Zecco when any of those other options are available for roughly the same cost.

I don’t want to come off as just being a big baby and I’m just saying this because I’m whining about Zecco removing my free trades. My experience with Zecco has been a pretty poor one from the start and even with the $0 free trades I had twice queued up scathing reviews of Zecco for this blog, but just never put the effort to finish them. Now that the free trades are gone it just motivated me to do a public service and warn of just some of the issue with Zecco so that none of my readers accidentally signed up with them over another brokerage because their commission is still relatively cheap (trust me its not worth the hassle).

Will carrying a credit card balance through month end hurt your credit score

Will carrying a credit card balance through month end hurt your credit score

As I vaguely mentioned in my $100,000 by Age 30 year end recap post my wife and I are starting to save for a house we want to build down the road (probably 2-3 years from now). While I’ve been planning this already for a few years, now that I have a savings account setup and a general timeframe in my head I’ve really started to up my planning and research.

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$100,000 in principal by Age 30 – 2008 year end recap

$100,000 in principal by Age 30 – 2008 year end recap

Well it is time for my annual check up on my $100,000 by age 30 goal. I guess I had a little foresight when setting up this goal as it is based solely on principal (my contributions) and investment performance does not matter. This way everything is under my control and I am not hurt or helped by short-term swings in the stock market. Which is good because currently my contributions are roughly $19,000 of my current nest egg value 🙂

The whole idea of this goal was to make sure that I was in a good situation in regards to my retirement planning. You can go ahead and read the original post here, but idea was to give myself an aggressive savings goal that would have me well on my way in my retirement planning. You can see where I currently stand vs my original plan below.

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Retirement Nestegg Report – December 2008 (+8.54%)

Retirement Nestegg Report – December 2008 (+8.54%)

Well 2008 sure was an exciting year and I certainly learned a lot in the process. As for my retirement nestegg I actually lost just over 5% for the year. That is not the whole story though because I also contributed about $15-$20k this year that is not currently showing up on paper.

I guess if I had just checked my balance at Jan 1, 2008 and and Jan 1,2009 it probably would have been a pretty boring year and to be honest this is probably what most people should do so they don’t’ get caught up in all of the nonesense and excitement that is the stock market that the mainstream media portrays to the average investor.

Me on the other hand the only real reason I check is to keep this blog updated and well I’ve got a pretty strong stomach and actually found some of the massive drops to be quite entertaining this year. I also think this year of being fully invested will make me a much better investor going forward. It will certainly be a while before I start sweating a 3% drop in one day. Heck if its not double digits I’m not sure why the media wastes their time reporting it 🙂

I’ve also learned to keep my cool, not act irrationally, and believe the mantra that “if its too good to be true” it always is. Ever since I started this blog I’ve harped on and on about how I wanted a major recession when I was young and would actually prefer to lose money on my investments and see my nestegg shrink than grow. I’ve got time on my side and I don’t need any of this money right now. I need it in 2038 so if the stock market wants to tank from 2004-2024 I am ok with that as long as I have a job. I’d much rather be an investor now than in the 1990s when stocks did nothing but go up.

Anyway here is my December report and a graph of my nestegg growth or lack thereof for the exciting year that was 2008.

Traditional Rollover IRA – $8,250.71 (+7.89%)
My Roth IRA – $23,843.67 (+4.00%)
Wife Roth IRA – $12,943.64 (+18.40%)
Current Traditional 401k – $23,538.41 (+8.80%)

Roth/Traditional % = 53.64% (tax free)

Total Retirement Nest Egg $68,576.43 (+8.54%)

My Contributions for 2008 $30,510.38
SPY Performance for 2008 -38.42%
Investment Performance for 2008 -47.98% (-9.56%)
Individual Stock Performance for 2008 -37.00% (+1.42%)
Total Investment Return -$35,108.72

Nestegg Growth