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		<title>By: broknowrchlatr</title>
		<link>http://myfinancialjourney.com/archive/when-i-think-i-want-to-retire/comment-page-1#comment-12232</link>
		<dc:creator>broknowrchlatr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 20:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you considerred just taking a demotion in your current job?   

I am in a very similar situation to you and Cents.   I got a promotion to development team manager a year ago and will make 6 figures in the not too distant future.  But, I won&#039;t want to do this forever.   I am targetting $1mm by age 42 and I also target having my final home paid off my then.  Within a few years of that, I&#039;d like to &#039;retire&#039; as well.  Teaching and being a wrestling or football coach has been a dream of mine.

But, I recently started thinking of another option.  At age 45, I will be getting 5 weeks of vacation a year.  Right now I get 4 but take about 2.5 due to job demands.   Because I manage a team, I get far behind when I take vacation.  At age 45, I like the idea of taking a demotion to a non-managerial position.   I would take an obvious pay cut.  But, I could be free for more time with family and still have a salary equal to about $65k in today&#039;s dollars.  That is about the same age my youngest child will get in to college.  Soon afterward, my income needs will drop off quite a bit.  Without the kids at home and the mortgage, my income needs will drop off a lot and $65k in today&#039;s dollars will still likely afford the same level of retirement savings that I currently maintain.  A teaching career would be nice, but at </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you considerred just taking a demotion in your current job?   </p>
<p>I am in a very similar situation to you and Cents.   I got a promotion to development team manager a year ago and will make 6 figures in the not too distant future.  But, I won&#8217;t want to do this forever.   I am targetting $1mm by age 42 and I also target having my final home paid off my then.  Within a few years of that, I&#8217;d like to &#8216;retire&#8217; as well.  Teaching and being a wrestling or football coach has been a dream of mine.</p>
<p>But, I recently started thinking of another option.  At age 45, I will be getting 5 weeks of vacation a year.  Right now I get 4 but take about 2.5 due to job demands.   Because I manage a team, I get far behind when I take vacation.  At age 45, I like the idea of taking a demotion to a non-managerial position.   I would take an obvious pay cut.  But, I could be free for more time with family and still have a salary equal to about $65k in today&#8217;s dollars.  That is about the same age my youngest child will get in to college.  Soon afterward, my income needs will drop off quite a bit.  Without the kids at home and the mortgage, my income needs will drop off a lot and $65k in today&#8217;s dollars will still likely afford the same level of retirement savings that I currently maintain.  A teaching career would be nice, but at </p>
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		<title>By: My Financial Journey &#187; Festival of Under 30 Finances #21</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Financial Journey &#187; Festival of Under 30 Finances #21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also wrote an article on this topic which can be found here. &#8220;Ideally I think I would like to retire in my early 40s. Now when I say â€œretireâ€ I mean [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] also wrote an article on this topic which can be found here. &#8220;Ideally I think I would like to retire in my early 40s. Now when I say â€œretireâ€ I mean [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MFJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MFJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darn you Lazy!! I even had in the parentheses after my 8% (just for illustration purposes Lazy) just because I knew you&#039;d start preaching about minor details like taxes and inflation ;-)

Yes $4.8M is chump change in today&#039;s dollars.  $1.75M (assuming 3% inflation) which would be $70k per year at 4%, which would probably be sufficient seeing as how I would hopefully be able to manage the taxes (currently 75% Roth money in nestegg) and wouldn&#039;t have bills like mortgage, etc.  I&#039;d like to shoot higher, but like I said I may value early retirement more than being extremely wealthy in retirement.  Plus who knows I might earn more money in early  retirement than I do working, but at least this will give me the freedom to take risks and try other employment routes out.

BTW I&#039;m just picking on you for picking on me about inflation.  I understand the evil power of inflation http://www.myfinancialjourney.com/archive/realistic-rate-of-return-part-iv-inflation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darn you Lazy!! I even had in the parentheses after my 8% (just for illustration purposes Lazy) just because I knew you&#8217;d start preaching about minor details like taxes and inflation <img src='http://myfinancialjourney.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes $4.8M is chump change in today&#8217;s dollars.  $1.75M (assuming 3% inflation) which would be $70k per year at 4%, which would probably be sufficient seeing as how I would hopefully be able to manage the taxes (currently 75% Roth money in nestegg) and wouldn&#8217;t have bills like mortgage, etc.  I&#8217;d like to shoot higher, but like I said I may value early retirement more than being extremely wealthy in retirement.  Plus who knows I might earn more money in early  retirement than I do working, but at least this will give me the freedom to take risks and try other employment routes out.</p>
<p>BTW I&#8217;m just picking on you for picking on me about inflation.  I understand the evil power of inflation <a href="http://www.myfinancialjourney.com/archive/realistic-rate-of-return-part-iv-inflation" rel="nofollow">http://www.myfinancialjourney.com/archive/realistic-rate-of-return-part-iv-inflation</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cents You Asked</title>
		<link>http://myfinancialjourney.com/archive/when-i-think-i-want-to-retire/comment-page-1#comment-6765</link>
		<dc:creator>Cents You Asked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 01:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in a pretty similar situation.  I&#039;m in my late twenties and find it hard to look 30-40 years down the road and imagine still working in a similar job.  Starting a business could be interesting and I&#039;m trying to build the various skils needed for that type of work (social, financial, networking, managing).  I&#039;m more interested in not having to travel and instead would like to help build up my local community.  

Coming up with a retirement number at our ages seems just about impossible given the amount of unknowns.  I like your approach to make medium term goals ($XXXX in X years).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in a pretty similar situation.  I&#8217;m in my late twenties and find it hard to look 30-40 years down the road and imagine still working in a similar job.  Starting a business could be interesting and I&#8217;m trying to build the various skils needed for that type of work (social, financial, networking, managing).  I&#8217;m more interested in not having to travel and instead would like to help build up my local community.  </p>
<p>Coming up with a retirement number at our ages seems just about impossible given the amount of unknowns.  I like your approach to make medium term goals ($XXXX in X years).</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man and Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man and Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would recommend taking inflation into account from the begining.  Psychologically 4.8M sounds like a lot, but broken into dollars that we are used to dealing with today it&#039;s easier to grasp exactly how much it is.

From there you can roughly compute how long you can survive by using the 4% rule (planning out 4% of your nest egg each year to live on).  The math should give you a guide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would recommend taking inflation into account from the begining.  Psychologically 4.8M sounds like a lot, but broken into dollars that we are used to dealing with today it&#8217;s easier to grasp exactly how much it is.</p>
<p>From there you can roughly compute how long you can survive by using the 4% rule (planning out 4% of your nest egg each year to live on).  The math should give you a guide.</p>
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